tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post5768353508835347032..comments2024-01-18T10:01:07.136-05:00Comments on Chaos and Pain: Of Stones and Strength Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The ZercherJamie Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16182869171233847161noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-51291536072295095222011-04-08T22:58:27.430-04:002011-04-08T22:58:27.430-04:00That would be 265 from the floor, after my main wo...That would be 265 from the floor, after my main workout. I pulled 405 the other day, so as a beginner I don't feel it's a bad lift.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-46354175891395336222011-04-06T10:30:33.897-04:002011-04-06T10:30:33.897-04:00"I tried it, got up to 265" (etc, blah, ..."I tried it, got up to 265" (etc, blah, blah). 265? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh sorry, are you 12 years old? That's an ok lift then.Ranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09779490320532017632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-62245166400486512522011-04-05T16:12:22.836-04:002011-04-05T16:12:22.836-04:00And i'm confused as to how you manage to see w...And i'm confused as to how you manage to see what you're typing, whilst simultaneously holding Jamie's cock between your lips.Ranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09779490320532017632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-27945239549123833082011-04-05T13:03:16.598-04:002011-04-05T13:03:16.598-04:00I'm confused as to whether you're suggesti...I'm confused as to whether you're suggesting no high level athletes take steroids, those things won't get you "super testosterone levels", or Jamie himself is a juicer. At any rate, you need to learn how to use quotations. And exclamation marks.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-40321590754437067022011-04-05T11:58:27.855-04:002011-04-05T11:58:27.855-04:00"..my next round of cringing and gasping.&quo..."..my next round of cringing and gasping."<br /><br />What, wanking? Don't forget, you need to do that three times a day plus take tribulus and longjack to give you super testosterone levels like the 'juicers'. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You bunch of suckers!!!Ranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09779490320532017632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-75664148043884506742011-04-05T04:18:34.111-04:002011-04-05T04:18:34.111-04:00@Jamie, @Nathan: thanks. I have been working out a...@Jamie, @Nathan: thanks. I have been working out at our school's uber-ghetto gym for several years now, and always make do with what I have. in hindsight, i feel stupid for not figuring that out myself. hahahah big thanks tho! definitely throwing the Z into my next round of cringing and gasping.Abehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239350629170166568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-69938336186714334642011-04-04T20:23:09.221-04:002011-04-04T20:23:09.221-04:00http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C62B42840...http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C62B42840873A02Glen MacCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362518660303256909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-36596026081896943032011-04-04T13:36:18.351-04:002011-04-04T13:36:18.351-04:00http://www.tvtropolis.com/Wipeout/Video/?releasePI...http://www.tvtropolis.com/Wipeout/Video/?releasePID=mEvERfNR_yIrFMHXHjipqBFL_R5sHtW7<br />^My Wipeout episode^Glen MacCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362518660303256909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-16885701069100622132011-04-04T12:39:01.589-04:002011-04-04T12:39:01.589-04:00Unfortunately I don't think it will yield much...Unfortunately I don't think it will yield much protein.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-28256672266890161252011-04-04T11:11:33.988-04:002011-04-04T11:11:33.988-04:00Jake- I've been shrugging heavy for years, so...Jake- I've been shrugging heavy for years, so I'd think it's just a matter of natural adaptation. I think the first time I shrugged over 6 plates was around 2001-2, due to the fact that I was training with a couple of fucking monsters who outweighed me by 70 lbs apiece. I love doing them, so I think it's just the result of a hell of a lot of just doing it over the years. Additionally, I do a lot of heavy rowing, which would have bolstered my strength in that area as well.<br /><br />Rant's back! I guess we can kill that parrot Dray taught to shout "STEROIDS!" followed by a bunch of jibberish.Jamie Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182869171233847161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-55876967923089286322011-04-04T10:19:17.178-04:002011-04-04T10:19:17.178-04:00"I warm up with 5 plates, and then keep addin..."I warm up with 5 plates, and then keep adding plates util I run out of room. I generally work up to 855 or 945 for a double. Sometimes I simple do sets of 6 with 8 plates for a half hour or so". <br /><br />-And to think doctors once used to say steroids had no effect on performance!!!Ranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09779490320532017632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-67720607401562664352011-04-01T15:35:59.345-04:002011-04-01T15:35:59.345-04:00Jamie, how do you do such heavy shrugs without fuc...Jamie, how do you do such heavy shrugs without fucking up your upper back? I find that my weakness for shrugs is how much my rhomboids/mid-back can handle. Will more shrugs solve the problem?JakeMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363601783790709326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-15939724730695475662011-04-01T14:32:47.384-04:002011-04-01T14:32:47.384-04:00Will- I'm glad someone did, haha.
Dray and Na...Will- I'm glad someone did, haha.<br />Dray and Nathan- I warm up with 5 plates, and then keep adding plates util I run out of room. I generally work up to 855 or 945 for a double. Sometimes I simple do sets of 6 with 8 plates for a half hour or so. Depends on the day. The degree to which a bar will bend under weight depends entirely on the type and quality of the bar though.Jamie Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182869171233847161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-34431690348848796402011-03-31T23:25:05.073-04:002011-03-31T23:25:05.073-04:00Jamie--
I appreciate the title of this blog. That...Jamie--<br /><br />I appreciate the title of this blog. That is all.<br /><br />WillWillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08806038244963754854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-33660720184036300272011-03-30T23:15:29.061-04:002011-03-30T23:15:29.061-04:00I think Jamie shrugs with upwards of 800-900 pound...I think Jamie shrugs with upwards of 800-900 pounds (945 maybe?) and does hand and thigh lifts with around a grand.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-43171261132008824822011-03-30T21:09:51.966-04:002011-03-30T21:09:51.966-04:00This is completely unrelated, but I think at some ...This is completely unrelated, but I think at some point you mentioned bending/damaging the bars at your gym doing heavy shrugs? How much weight were you using? I don't want to get kicked out of my gym for damaging another bar, so I'm scared to go past 7 plates. (I already damaged one bar in a freak accident)Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617470049346749862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-80294389259841721942011-03-30T06:19:57.302-04:002011-03-30T06:19:57.302-04:00Here's a basque stone lifter lifting with his ...Here's a basque stone lifter lifting with his dick:<br /><br />http://www.cd.sc.ehu.es/DOCS/book.SS-G/imag/f57.gifI Am Spartacushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11531071738782805775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-67145581484658552462011-03-29T16:19:26.152-04:002011-03-29T16:19:26.152-04:00Re: hiding a stone in a shrub. You could always ju...Re: hiding a stone in a shrub. You could always just trek around town with a friend and their truck and steal stones to set them in another, unrelated area out in the middle of nowhere. If you have a friend with a truck and an empty spot somewhere, anyways.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-67458842305003610532011-03-29T15:49:57.221-04:002011-03-29T15:49:57.221-04:00Pussy Pads make them much more comfortable if you ...Pussy Pads make them much more comfortable if you do Zerchers out of the rack. They are pretty much impossible to use if you start from a deadlift though. I've just gotten used to having permanent bruises on my biceps. I guess this is the lift to do when front squats get to be too comfortable. I've noticed that my front squat went way the fuck up in a period of weeks when I started doing Zerchers.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617470049346749862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-66896405986307396942011-03-29T11:15:11.122-04:002011-03-29T11:15:11.122-04:00Abe- snag the pussy pad off the bar in the smith ...Abe- snag the pussy pad off the bar in the smith machine and throw that fucker on the bar. Problem solved.Jamie Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182869171233847161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-23437798771889796512011-03-29T11:13:10.775-04:002011-03-29T11:13:10.775-04:00Jamie, find some shrubs and hide a stone in there....Jamie, find some shrubs and hide a stone in there. Nobody will see it, and if even if they do, they probably won't bother to remove it.<br /><br />Zerchers really do work better with random scraps of metal. Ductile iron pipe works really well!Justin_PShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819478474074071804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-39843596558753957552011-03-29T09:29:17.015-04:002011-03-29T09:29:17.015-04:00The stone I've got out back has still ripped c...The stone I've got out back has still ripped chunks of skin off through long sleeved shirts, and put holes in what would otherwise seem to be heavy duty cargo shorts.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-84869081195563999632011-03-29T01:52:27.661-04:002011-03-29T01:52:27.661-04:00If you have access to a thick-handled bar it makes...If you have access to a thick-handled bar it makes a huge difference with Zercher lifting.<br /><br />The best way to get better at lifting stones is to lift stones (duh). There are certain things in the gym you can do that will help but all stones are different so it takes some experience to find the right balance with one fairly quickly. It's hard to mimic the way you grip a stone in the gym as well. Your hands will be almost open sometimes. Also, your not just fighting the downward force of gravity. When you bearhug a stone you need to simultaneously crush inward with your arms while lifting upward. The skin on the inside of your forearms will take quite a beating at first but long sleeves eliminate that problem 100%. None of this is exactly complicated but it is more than what Zercher lifts and plate rows will cover. Even sandbags and kegs are easier than stones.<br /><br />If you live near a creek or woods of any kind then stones are fairly easy to find. Depending on how out of the way it is for you, you might just leave your stone right where it is and just come back to train with it periodically.<br />I personally do most of my stone lifting at an underpass that's just a few blocks away from my house. Underpasses are typically lined on either side with either concrete or stones. Pay attention next time you drive under one. I never have to bring any of these stones home because they're only a few blocks away and if the ones I like ever do disappear (the chances of this are highly unlikely) there are shitloads more to choose from.Glen MacCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362518660303256909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-44136089836279574932011-03-29T01:39:26.613-04:002011-03-29T01:39:26.613-04:00I know this sounds like a pussy, but what about ki...I know this sounds like a pussy, but what about killer pain in the forearms from having that weight cradled into my elbows..? anybody?Abehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239350629170166568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5835524249360195666.post-7720486938355555542011-03-28T23:45:16.937-04:002011-03-28T23:45:16.937-04:00Niel, I had the same fucking issue when I did zerc...Niel, I had the same fucking issue when I did zercher squats earlier today. It seems that probably the best way to get depth on a zercher squat is to either do it out of the rack with a pretty round back (I did it), or to deadlift it onto your thighs, because from there, you've got the option of starting from a rock bottom squatting position.drayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485898408046401676noreply@blogger.com